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We Have Johnny Carson to Thank For ‘Saturday Night Live’ and Other Unexpected Facts

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Tonight Show host Johnny Carson tapes the 10th anniversary show with band leader Doc Severinsen (in the background) on September 29, 1972 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo Credit: Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)

Ask any of today’s nightly talk show hosts who they admire and they’ll probably come back with one name… Johnny Carson.

When he took over The Tonight Show from Jack Paar in 1962, it was the beginning of something special. Standing down three decades later, Carson’s place in the history books was guaranteed. He spoke to countless celebrities. But what was he like away from the sparkling repartee?

Meet the man who inspired an ax-wielding Jack Nicholson to declare: “Heeere’s Johnny!”

He’s directly responsible for Saturday Night Live

Early cast of SNL

Early cast of SNL (Photo Credit: NBC/MovieStillsDB)

The year 1975 saw American weekends change forever. Saturday Night Live, or SNL, was about to hit TV screens and introduce the world to the next generation of U.S. comedy talent.

Was NBC looking to shake things up with a spicy new show? Nope. Actually, it was Johnny Carson who gave rise to SNL. Medium writes that the all-conquering question master “had perhaps more negotiating power with a television network than any individual ever had before or since.”

Deciding he only wanted to host four shows per week instead of five, he provoked a re-jigging of the schedules. Precious Tonight Show reruns moved from Saturday to Friday. Producer Lorne Michaels stepped in to steer the ship and hired the likes of Belushi, Aykroyd, Chase, Curtin… the rest is hilarious history.

Johnny Carson had a magic about him… with good reason

young Johnny Carson against a red background

American comedian and television presenter Johnny Carson circa 1960. (Photo Credit: Archive Photos/Getty Images)

As a youngster, Carson developed an interest in magic. He first set foot on stage aged 14 with an alias… The Great Carsoni!

His show business career was interrupted somewhat by World War II. A key moment in his life occurred during a meeting with one James V. Forrestal, otherwise known as U.S. Secretary of the Navy.

When Carson told Forrestal he wanted to be a magician, it led to him performing an impromptu card trick. This gave him confidence in his abilities, according to Paul Corkery’s 1987 book Carson: The Unauthorized Biography. The future host described it as the high point of his time in the military.

Working with Orson Welles

American actor and director Orson Welles and an assistant help American actor Rita Hayworth out of a large trunk

American actor and director Orson Welles and an assistant help American actor Rita Hayworth out of a large trunk on stage during Welles’s magic show. Welles and Hayworth were married one month later. (Photo Credit: Gene Lester/Getty Images)

It was during his service that he encountered a true great. Orson Welles, another well-known figure with a passion for magic, was performing as part of The Mercury Wonder Show in 1943.

Welles’ super glamorous assistant (and real-life partner) Rita Hayworth was unavailable. So Carson got picked to get in the box and have Citizen Kane himself put a saw through his middle!

Little did the theatrical polymath suspect that he’d guest host The Tonight Show in Carson’s absence years later.

He had a bad relationship with his mother

American power company manager Homer Carson (1899 - 1983) and wife Ruth Carson, the parents of American talk show host and comedian Johnny Carson

American power company manager Homer Carson (1899 – 1983) and wife Ruth Carson (1901 – 1985), the parents of American talk show host and comedian Johnny Carson, walk arm-in-arm between parked cars in Hollywood, California, October 1974. (Photo Credit: Frank Edwards/Fotos International/Getty Images)

Carson didn’t like his mother Ruth, as written about by Henry Bushkin in 2013.

A close associate of one of the USA’s ultimate TV personalities, Bushkin revealed Carson’s description of Ruth as “the toughest son of a bitch of them all.” He added: “There is no goddamn way to please that woman.”

When she passed away, Johnny didn’t attend the funeral.

Mel to pay

Scene from Blazing Saddles

Blazing Saddles lobby card (Photo Credit: MovieStillsDB)

For many movie fans, Harvey Korman is Hedley Lamarr. The corrupt and ridiculous character from Mel Brooks’ Blazing Saddles (1974) is famous for his scheming, not to mention his froggy.

Writing for Neatorama, Eddie Deezen mentions that Korman was not the first choice. Johnny Carson could have taken the job, but it wasn’t to his liking.

Carson vs. Geller

Uri Geller with his custom built 1976 Cadillac

Uri Geller at home in Berkshire, England with his custom built 1976 Cadillac encrusted with over 5,000 pieces of contorted and bend spoons and cutlery. (Photo Credit: Homer Sykes/Corbis via Getty Images)

In a famous edition of The Tonight Show, Carson invited world-famous psychic spoon bender Uri Geller on to demonstrate his cutlery-based skills. Back in 1973, Geller arguably lacked household name status. And the welcome he received wasn’t exactly warm.

Working with skeptical fellow magician James Randi, Carson wanted to put Geller through his paces. They set him a series of surprise challenges to demonstrate he really could do what he claimed.

A nervous Geller couldn’t prove his mettle, so to speak. Though the appearance led to an increased profile and invitations to perform on other shows. It’s thought Carson unintentionally launched Geller on a new phase of his career!

The one that got away

Cary Grant on a rooftop

Cary Grant in Paris. Undated photograph. (Photo Credit:
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He surely interviewed them all but there was a certain star of the silver screen that Carson never got to chat with: Cary Grant.

In a tribute to Carson following his death in 2005 aged 79, The New Yorker wrote: “Grant, like Carson, ended his career decisively, walking away from movies when he was sixty-two.” Another intriguing connection is that Grant died in Iowa, just like Carson.

The King of Late Night was a hellraiser

Johnny Carson winking

Johnny Carson (Photo Credit: Ron Galella/Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images)

Johnny Carson may have been cool as a cucumber on his show. However, he could be pretty abrasive and unpleasant behind the scenes.

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Drinking, womanizing, avoiding his responsibilities as a parent… the complete picture of Carson probably shocked his fans. Henry Bushkin revealed that his pal was charming but also surprisingly cold at times.

Bushkin recalls a drunken conversation where Carson branded himself “a sh**t.” So it seems no one was more aware of his faults than him!